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@larryhastings
larryhastings
opened on Jan 8, 2014
BPO 20187
Nosy @warsaw, @larryhastings, @bitdancer, @serhiy-storchaka
Dependencies
  • bpo-20133: Derby: Convert the audioop module to use Argument Clinic
  • bpo-20148: Derby: Convert the _sre module to use Argument Clinic
  • bpo-20151: Derby: Convert the binascii module to use Argument Clinic
  • bpo-20152: Derby Use Sphinx 1.4.9 for now #15: Convert 50 sites to Argument Clinic across 9 files
  • bpo-20159: Derby bpo-29527: Disable broken Travis docs job #7: Convert 51 sites to Argument Clinic across 3 files -> Derby: Convert the ElementTree module to use Argument Clinic
  • bpo-20168: Derby: Convert the _tkinter module to use Argument Clinic
  • bpo-20170: Derby Support "bpo-" in Misc/NEWS #1: Convert 137 sites to Argument Clinic in Modules/posixmodule.c
  • bpo-20171: Derby Rename README to README.rst and enhance formatting #2: Convert 115 sites to Argument Clinic in Modules/_cursesmodule.c
  • bpo-20172: Derby bpo-29403: Fix mock's broken autospec behavior on method-bound builtin functions #3: Convert 67 sites to Argument Clinic across 4 files (Windows)
  • bpo-20173: Derby Update Python Software Foundation Copyright Year. #4: Convert 53 sites to Argument Clinic across 5 files
  • bpo-20174: Derby Convert READMEs to rst #5: Convert 50 sites to Argument Clinic across 3 files
  • bpo-20175: Derby Add Pycharm's .idea directory to gitignore #6: Convert 50 sites to Argument Clinic across 8 files
  • bpo-20177: Derby Change some mercurial/ hg.python.org references. #8: Convert 28 sites to Argument Clinic across 2 files
  • bpo-20178: Derby Fix some deprecation warnings in Doc/conf.py #9: Convert 52 sites to Argument Clinic across 11 files
  • bpo-20179: Derby bpo-29474: Improve documentation for weakref.WeakValueDictionary #10: Convert 50 sites to Argument Clinic across 4 files
  • bpo-20180: Derby bpo-29474: Improve documentation for weakref.WeakValueDictionary #11: Convert 50 sites to Argument Clinic across 9 files
  • bpo-20181: Derby bpo-29524: Add Objects/call.c file #12: Convert 50 sites to Argument Clinic across 4 files
  • bpo-20182: Derby Fix bpo-29528 Use a secure variable to stop spam #13: Convert 50 sites to Argument Clinic across 5 files
  • bpo-20183: Derby Disable Travis docs job until a fix is found #14: Convert 41 sites to Argument Clinic across 5 files
  • bpo-20184: Derby Make Travis docs build more lenient #16: Convert 50 sites to Argument Clinic across 9 files
  • bpo-20185: Derby bpo-29438: fixed use-after-free in key sharing dict #17: Convert 49 sites to Argument Clinic across 13 files
  • bpo-20186: Derby Rename Doc/README.txt to Doc/README.rst #18: Convert 31 sites to Argument Clinic across 23 files
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    assignee = 'https://github.com/larryhastings'
closed_at = None
created_at = <Date 2014-01-08.00:31:45.475>
labels = ['type-feature', 'expert-email', 'expert-argument-clinic']
title = 'The Great Argument Clinic Conversion Derby Meta-Issue'
updated_at = <Date 2018-06-14.17:51:04.719>
user = 'https://github.com/larryhastings'

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priority = 'normal'
resolution = None
stage = 'needs patch'
status = 'open'
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type = 'enhancement'
url = 'https://bugs.python.org/issue20187'
versions = ['Python 3.4']

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    1. larryhastings commented on Jan 8, 2014

      @larryhastings
      larryhastings
      on Jan 8, 2014
      ContributorAuthor

      This is a meta-issue tracking all the Argument Clinic Derby sub-issues.

    2. larryhastings
      self-assigned this
      on Jan 8, 2014
    3. larryhastings
      added
      topic-email
      type-featureA feature request or enhancement
      on Jan 8, 2014

    4. larryhastings commented on Jan 8, 2014

      @larryhastings
      larryhastings
      on Jan 8, 2014
      ContributorAuthor

      The issue tracker isn't letting me add all the dependencies to the dependency list. For the record, here are the numbers:

      bpo-20133
      bpo-20148
      bpo-20151
      bpo-20152
      bpo-20159
      bpo-20168
      bpo-20170
      bpo-20171
      bpo-20172
      bpo-20173
      bpo-20174
      bpo-20175
      bpo-20177
      bpo-20178
      bpo-20179
      bpo-20180
      bpo-20181
      bpo-20182
      bpo-20183
      bpo-20184
      bpo-20185
      bpo-20186

      (so far)

    5. larryhastings commented on Jan 8, 2014

      @larryhastings
      larryhastings
      on Jan 8, 2014
      ContributorAuthor

      Here's how the files were parceled out into the various bundles:

      bpo-20170
      Derby #1: Convert 137 sites to Argument Clinic in Modules/posixmodule.c

      [Modules/posixmodule.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/posixmodule.c): 137 sites

      bpo-20171
      Derby #2: Convert 115 sites to Argument Clinic in Modules/_cursesmodule.c

      [Modules/_cursesmodule.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/_cursesmodule.c): 115 sites

      bpo-20172
      Derby #3: Convert 67 sites to Argument Clinic across 4 files

      [PC/msvcrtmodule.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/PC/msvcrtmodule.c): 18 sites
[PC/winreg.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/PC/winreg.c): 24 sites
[PC/winsound.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/PC/winsound.c): 3 sites
[Modules/_winapi.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/_winapi.c): 22 sites

      bpo-20173
      Derby #4: Convert 53 sites to Argument Clinic across 5 files

      [Modules/_codecsmodule.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/_codecsmodule.c): 43 sites
[Modules/sha1module.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/sha1module.c): 2 sites
[Modules/sha256module.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/sha256module.c): 3 sites
[Modules/sha512module.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/sha512module.c): 3 sites
[Modules/md5module.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/md5module.c): 2 sites

      bpo-20174
      Derby #5: Convert 50 sites to Argument Clinic across 3 files

      [Modules/socketmodule.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/socketmodule.c): 47 sites
[Modules/socketmodule.h](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/socketmodule.h): 1 sites
[Modules/_functoolsmodule.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/_functoolsmodule.c): 2 sites

      bpo-20175
      Derby #6: Convert 50 sites to Argument Clinic across 8 files

      [Modules/_io/bufferedio.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/_io/bufferedio.c): 13 sites
[Modules/_io/bytesio.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/_io/bytesio.c): 6 sites
[Modules/_io/fileio.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/_io/fileio.c): 6 sites
[Modules/_io/iobase.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/_io/iobase.c): 4 sites
[Modules/_io/stringio.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/_io/stringio.c): 5 sites
[Modules/_io/textio.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/_io/textio.c): 8 sites
[Modules/_multiprocessing/multiprocessing.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/_multiprocessing/multiprocessing.c): 3 sites
[Modules/_multiprocessing/semaphore.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/_multiprocessing/semaphore.c): 5 sites

      bpo-20159
      Derby #7: Convert 51 sites to Argument Clinic across 3 files

      [Modules/_elementtree.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/_elementtree.c): 31 sites
[PC/_msi.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/PC/_msi.c): 15 sites
[PC/bdist_wininst/install.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/PC/bdist_wininst/install.c): 5 sites

      bpo-20177
      Derby #8: Convert 52 sites to Argument Clinic across 3 files

      [Modules/_datetimemodule.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/_datetimemodule.c): 20 sites
[Modules/timemodule.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/timemodule.c): 8 sites
[Modules/_decimal/_decimal.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/_decimal/_decimal.c): 24 sites

      bpo-20178
      Derby #9: Convert 52 sites to Argument Clinic across 11 files

      [Modules/_ctypes/_ctypes.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/_ctypes/_ctypes.c): 8 sites
[Modules/_ctypes/_ctypes_test.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/_ctypes/_ctypes_test.c): 1 sites
[Modules/_ctypes/callproc.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/_ctypes/callproc.c): 14 sites
[Modules/_ctypes/stgdict.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/_ctypes/stgdict.c): 0 sites
[Modules/_curses_panel.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/_curses_panel.c): 3 sites
[Modules/_sqlite/cache.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/_sqlite/cache.c): 1 sites
[Modules/_sqlite/connection.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/_sqlite/connection.c): 12 sites
[Modules/_sqlite/cursor.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/_sqlite/cursor.c): 5 sites
[Modules/_sqlite/microprotocols.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/_sqlite/microprotocols.c): 1 sites
[Modules/_sqlite/module.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/_sqlite/module.c): 6 sites
[Modules/_sqlite/row.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/_sqlite/row.c): 1 sites

      bpo-20179
      Derby #10: Convert 50 sites to Argument Clinic across 4 files

      [Modules/overlapped.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/overlapped.c): 21 sites
[Modules/_ssl.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/_ssl.c): 20 sites
[Objects/bytes_methods.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Objects/bytes_methods.c): 1 sites
[Objects/bytesobject.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Objects/bytesobject.c): 8 sites

      bpo-20180
      Derby #11: Convert 50 sites to Argument Clinic across 9 files

      [Modules/_collectionsmodule.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/_collectionsmodule.c): 4 sites
[Modules/itertoolsmodule.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/itertoolsmodule.c): 11 sites
[Modules/_randommodule.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/_randommodule.c): 1 sites
[Objects/unicodeobject.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Objects/unicodeobject.c): 14 sites
[Modules/xxlimited.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/xxlimited.c): 4 sites
[Modules/xxmodule.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/xxmodule.c): 5 sites
[Modules/xxsubtype.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/xxsubtype.c): 5 sites
[Objects/stringlib/find.h](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Objects/stringlib/find.h): 1 sites
[Objects/stringlib/transmogrify.h](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Objects/stringlib/transmogrify.h): 5 sites

      bpo-20181
      Derby #12: Convert 50 sites to Argument Clinic across 4 files

      [Objects/bytearrayobject.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Objects/bytearrayobject.c): 13 sites
[Modules/parsermodule.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/parsermodule.c): 13 sites
[Modules/unicodedata.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/unicodedata.c): 12 sites
[Modules/readline.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/readline.c): 12 sites

      bpo-20182
      Derby #13: Convert 50 sites to Argument Clinic across 5 files

      [Modules/signalmodule.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/signalmodule.c): 12 sites
[Modules/selectmodule.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/selectmodule.c): 12 sites
[Modules/zlibmodule.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/zlibmodule.c): 11 sites
[Python/sysmodule.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Python/sysmodule.c): 10 sites
[Modules/_hashopenssl.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/_hashopenssl.c): 5 sites

      bpo-20183
      Derby #14: Convert 50 sites to Argument Clinic across 6 files

      [Modules/mmapmodule.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/mmapmodule.c): 10 sites
[Modules/_localemodule.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/_localemodule.c): 10 sites
[Modules/zipimport.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/zipimport.c): 9 sites
[Modules/ossaudiodev.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/ossaudiodev.c): 9 sites
[Modules/_testbuffer.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/_testbuffer.c): 9 sites
[Modules/_struct.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/_struct.c): 3 sites

      bpo-20152
      Derby #15: Convert 50 sites to Argument Clinic across 9 files

      [Python/import.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Python/import.c): 8 sites
[Modules/cmathmodule.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/cmathmodule.c): 8 sites
[Modules/cjkcodecs/multibytecodec.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/cjkcodecs/multibytecodec.c): 8 sites
[Modules/arraymodule.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/arraymodule.c): 8 sites
[Modules/pyexpat.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/pyexpat.c): 7 sites
[Modules/fcntlmodule.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/fcntlmodule.c): 7 sites
[Modules/pwdmodule.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/pwdmodule.c): 2 sites
[Modules/spwdmodule.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/spwdmodule.c): 1 sites
[Modules/grpmodule.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/grpmodule.c): 1 sites

      bpo-20184
      Derby #16: Convert 50 sites to Argument Clinic across 9 files

      [Modules/faulthandler.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/faulthandler.c): 7 sites
[Modules/_pickle.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/_pickle.c): 7 sites
[Modules/_lzmamodule.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/_lzmamodule.c): 7 sites
[Python/bltinmodule.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Python/bltinmodule.c): 6 sites
[Modules/termios.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/termios.c): 6 sites
[Modules/syslogmodule.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/syslogmodule.c): 6 sites
[Modules/_dbmmodule.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/_dbmmodule.c): 4 sites
[Modules/_gdbmmodule.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/_gdbmmodule.c): 2 sites
[Modules/_json.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/_json.c): 5 sites

      bpo-20185
      Derby #17: Convert 50 sites to Argument Clinic across 14 files

      [Objects/typeobject.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Objects/typeobject.c): 5 sites
[Objects/longobject.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Objects/longobject.c): 5 sites
[Objects/listobject.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Objects/listobject.c): 5 sites
[Objects/floatobject.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Objects/floatobject.c): 4 sites
[Modules/resource.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/resource.c): 4 sites
[Modules/_threadmodule.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/_threadmodule.c): 4 sites
[Modules/_bz2module.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/_bz2module.c): 4 sites
[Modules/_bisectmodule.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/_bisectmodule.c): 4 sites
[Python/marshal.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Python/marshal.c): 3 sites
[Objects/exceptions.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Objects/exceptions.c): 3 sites
[Modules/nismodule.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/nismodule.c): 3 sites
[Modules/gcmodule.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/gcmodule.c): 3 sites
[Python/_warnings.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Python/_warnings.c): 2 sites
[Modules/_cryptmodule.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/_cryptmodule.c): 1 sites

      bpo-20186
      Derby #18: Convert 31 sites to Argument Clinic across 23 files

      [Objects/tupleobject.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Objects/tupleobject.c): 2 sites
[Objects/memoryobject.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Objects/memoryobject.c): 2 sites
[Objects/descrobject.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Objects/descrobject.c): 2 sites
[Objects/complexobject.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Objects/complexobject.c): 2 sites
[Modules/_operator.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/_operator.c): 2 sites
[Modules/_opcode.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/_opcode.c): 2 sites
[Modules/_lsprof.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/_lsprof.c): 2 sites
[Modules/_heapqmodule.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/_heapqmodule.c): 2 sites
[Objects/weakrefobject.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Objects/weakrefobject.c): 1 sites
[Objects/structseq.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Objects/structseq.c): 1 sites
[Objects/rangeobject.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Objects/rangeobject.c): 1 sites
[Objects/object.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Objects/object.c): 1 sites
[Objects/moduleobject.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Objects/moduleobject.c): 1 sites
[Objects/funcobject.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Objects/funcobject.c): 1 sites
[Objects/fileobject.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Objects/fileobject.c): 1 sites
[Objects/enumobject.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Objects/enumobject.c): 1 sites
[Objects/codeobject.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Objects/codeobject.c): 1 sites
[Objects/boolobject.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Objects/boolobject.c): 1 sites
[Modules/symtablemodule.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/symtablemodule.c): 1 sites
[Modules/mathmodule.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/mathmodule.c): 1 sites
[Modules/_tracemalloc.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/_tracemalloc.c): 1 sites
[Modules/_io/_iomodule.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/_io/_iomodule.c): 1 sites
[Modules/_csv.c](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Modules/_csv.c): 1 sites

    6. serhiy-storchaka commented on Jan 15, 2014

      @serhiy-storchaka
      serhiy-storchaka
      on Jan 15, 2014
      Member

      I want to warn against the converting of base objects (whose sources lie in Objects/). Their performance is critical and the converting can worsen it. Often they even don't use PyArg_ParseTuple due to performance reasons or because argument parsing is too special for PyArg_ParseTuple. I would suggest to postpone it until Argument Clinic will generate optimized parsing code.

      The same is true for some modules. The performance of struct and operator is important. In any case these modules almost not use PyArg_ParseTuple and can be omitted.

    7. larryhastings commented on Jan 15, 2014

      @larryhastings
      larryhastings
      on Jan 15, 2014
      ContributorAuthor

      Can you give me an example of performance degradation due to Argument Clinic? What percentage slowdown is common?

    8. serhiy-storchaka commented on Jan 15, 2014

      @serhiy-storchaka
      serhiy-storchaka
      on Jan 15, 2014
      Member

      I have no any numbers.

    9. larryhastings commented on Jan 15, 2014

      @larryhastings
      larryhastings
      on Jan 15, 2014
      ContributorAuthor

      Until you have some numbers, your assertion has no weight and should be ignored.

      (As Carl Sagan once wrote: "That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence." And as Donald Knuth wrote: "Premature optimization is the root of all evil.")

    10. taleinat commented on Jan 21, 2014

      @taleinat
      taleinat
      on Jan 21, 2014
      Contributor

      I've been working on converting unicode, bytes and bytearray, but their files are separated into Derby groups #10, #11 and #12. Could we create a new issue and move the relevant files to it?

      The files I'd like to move:

      From Derby #10 (bpo-20179):
      Objects/bytes_methods.c
      Objects/bytesobject.c

      From Derby #11 (bpo-20180):
      Objects/unicodeobject.c
      Objects/stringlib/find.h
      Objects/stringlib/transmogrify.h

      From Derby #12 (bpo-20181):
      Objects/bytearrayobject.c: 13 sites

    11. taleinat commented on Jan 21, 2014

      @taleinat
      taleinat
      on Jan 21, 2014
      Contributor

      Never mind my previous comment; I realize it would create to much of a mess. Sorry for the noise.

    12. serhiy-storchaka
      added
      topic-argument-clinic
      on Feb 25, 2015
    13. ezio-melotti
      transferred this issue fromon Apr 10, 2022

    14. AA-Turner commented on Jun 7, 2022

      @AA-Turner
      AA-Turner
      on Jun 7, 2022
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      @larryhastings Is this issue still relevant? All the AC PRs listed in the header are either merged or closed.

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    16. kumaraditya303 commented on Jun 19, 2022

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      Individual issue can be created if required as this is completed.

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