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ast.literal_eval Segmentation Fault in Python 3.9/3.10 #126711
The above code makes Python 3.9/3.10 crash with Segmentation Fault.
This error input can be correctly detected in Python 3.11+ with RecursionError: maximum recursion depth exceeded during ast construction, but it still results into crash in 3.9.20 and 3.10.15.
A smaller l such as 200 will get the correct error Value Error: malformed node or string for all Python 3.9+
CPython versions tested on:
3.9, 3.10
Operating systems tested on:
Linux
Output from running 'python -VV' on the command line:
Python 3.9.20 (main, Oct 3 2024, 07:27:41) [GCC 11.2.0], Python 3.10.15 (main, Oct 3 2024, 07:27:34) [GCC 11.2.0]
FWIW, the 3.9 docs says: "It is possible to crash the Python interpreter with a sufficiently large/complex string due to stack depth limitations in Python’s AST compiler."
3.10+ docs are more vague: "It is possible to crash the Python interpreter due to stack depth limitations in Python’s AST compiler."
So, I'm not sure if we should count this as a bug.
@skirpichev, thanks for your reply. But I am wondering whether it means that Python 3.9/3.10, which is still in use in production, is not safe for such inputs.
Documentation (since 3.10) explicitly says, that ast.litaral_eval() is not safe for arbitrary input: "This function had been documented as “safe” in the past without defining what that meant. That was misleading. This is specifically designed not to execute Python code, unlike the more general eval(). There is no namespace, no name lookups, or ability to call out. But it is not free from attack: A relatively small input can lead to memory exhaustion or to C stack exhaustion, crashing the process. There is also the possibility for excessive CPU consumption denial of service on some inputs. Calling it on untrusted data is thus not recommended."
I see it. And I now think this is not a bug but just a poc to trigger the crash (C stack exhaustion) of the officially declared unsafe ast.literal_eval.
Hello! Thank you for the report. Since ast.literal_eval has been documented as a function that can potentially lead to interpreter crashes, I don't think it's worthwhile to fix it in 3.9. However, it seems reasonable to me to backport #95919 to 3.9 version. cc @gpshead
EDIT: I saw a Christian comment: #95588 (comment). Though, I can't say that I agree with it. This function was probably never safe and the documentation was just wrong.
My main concern here is that we can't undo documenting ast.literal_eval as safe. Plenty of people are using it in seemingly unsafe places as a result, and I'm not sure it's a good idea to just stick a big bandaid on it for 3.9. If there's absolutely nothing we can do to fix it, then perhaps we could emit a warning when using it on 3.9?
#126711 already backports the doc change to 3.9. So yes we can. We can never prevent people from writing code that doesn't behave as they desire, all we can do is make expectations more clear.
We cannot meaningfully add a warning no matter what branch because there are plenty of valid uses of ast.literal_eval and it is impossible to tell which ones are and are not.
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skirpichev commentedon Nov 12, 2024
@EgodPrime, please avoid creating duplicate issues.
FWIW, the 3.9 docs says: "It is possible to crash the Python interpreter with a sufficiently large/complex string due to stack depth limitations in Python’s AST compiler."
3.10+ docs are more vague: "It is possible to crash the Python interpreter due to stack depth limitations in Python’s AST compiler."
So, I'm not sure if we should count this as a bug.
EgodPrime commentedon Nov 12, 2024
@skirpichev, thanks for your reply. But I am wondering whether it means that Python 3.9/3.10, which is still in use in production, is not safe for such inputs.
skirpichev commentedon Nov 12, 2024
Documentation (since 3.10) explicitly says, that ast.litaral_eval() is not safe for arbitrary input: "This function had been documented as “safe” in the past without defining what that meant. That was misleading. This is specifically designed not to execute Python code, unlike the more general eval(). There is no namespace, no name lookups, or ability to call out. But it is not free from attack: A relatively small input can lead to memory exhaustion or to C stack exhaustion, crashing the process. There is also the possibility for excessive CPU consumption denial of service on some inputs. Calling it on untrusted data is thus not recommended."
EgodPrime commentedon Nov 12, 2024
I see it. And I now think this is not a bug but just a poc to trigger the crash (C stack exhaustion) of the officially declared unsafe
ast.literal_eval.Eclips4 commentedon Nov 12, 2024
Hello! Thank you for the report. Since
ast.literal_evalhas been documented as a function that can potentially lead to interpreter crashes, I don't think it's worthwhile to fix it in 3.9. However, it seems reasonable to me to backport #95919 to 3.9 version. cc @gpsheadEDIT: I saw a Christian comment: #95588 (comment). Though, I can't say that I agree with it. This function was probably never safe and the documentation was just wrong.
skirpichev commentedon Nov 12, 2024
I'll prepare a patch.
skirpichev commentedon Nov 12, 2024
Well, 3.9 is for security-fixes only. But here is a docs backport: #126729
Eclips4 commentedon Nov 12, 2024
I would like to consider this issue as a security problem because crash of interpreter can lead to DOS.
ZeroIntensity commentedon Nov 12, 2024
My main concern here is that we can't undo documenting
ast.literal_evalas safe. Plenty of people are using it in seemingly unsafe places as a result, and I'm not sure it's a good idea to just stick a big bandaid on it for 3.9. If there's absolutely nothing we can do to fix it, then perhaps we could emit a warning when using it on 3.9?gpshead commentedon Nov 12, 2024
#126711 already backports the doc change to 3.9. So yes we can. We can never prevent people from writing code that doesn't behave as they desire, all we can do is make expectations more clear.
We cannot meaningfully add a warning no matter what branch because there are plenty of valid uses of
ast.literal_evaland it is impossible to tell which ones are and are not.